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Defiling Treekiller · Jun 29, 2009, 03:25 PM // 15:25

hi , I just started a para and was wondering what secondary proff would be good. Was thinking of warrior as both use adrenal skills but would like any advice u guys would give as this is my 1st para and ive only been playing GW for about 6 months and have played necro and monk for most of that. thanks in advance

Zonk · Jun 29, 2009, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Warrior for Save Yourself. Then either go Imbagon for boredom, or simply don't use your 2nd prof skills and have fun

Mylina · Jun 29, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27

P/W is great for shouts. Either as energy management or for protection ("Save Yourselves!").

~Mylina

lewis91 · Jun 29, 2009, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Agreed with the rest, P/W

Evil Eye · Jun 29, 2009, 04:48 PM // 16:48

/mo for Empathic removal

Lishy · Jun 29, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43

/W for save yourselves.
But you may want to use a /D for a critical scythe paragon.

Reverend Dr · Jun 29, 2009, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

/W for save yourselves.
But you may want to use a /D for a critical scythe paragon.

Nah man, should definately go /E for fast cast water snares.

The Riven · Jun 29, 2009, 09:32 PM // 21:32

hmmm /A for AP SY.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 29, 2009, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by The Riven

hmmm /A for AP SY.

P/A/W?

@OP, P/W is by far the best thing you could run in PvE.

Bobby2 · Jun 29, 2009, 11:04 PM // 23:04

+1 for a certain Warrior shout

Lishy · Jun 30, 2009, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Nah man, should definately go /E for fast cast water snares.

You underestimate the spammability for go for the eyes

Defiling Treekiller · Jun 30, 2009, 03:19 AM // 03:19

thank you all for input going with warrior you can close this

Reverend Dr · Jun 30, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

You underestimate the spammability for go for the eyes

Or you could bring go for the eyes and dervishes, where the dervishes are going to get criticals more often and for higher damage. That can be done regardless of secondary and by using spear you'll gain adrenaline faster than scythe.

Also secondaries hardly matter when by the time you actually hit 20 and can actually start making builds, there is an NPC that will let you change secondary at the push of a couple of buttons.

Lishy · Jun 30, 2009, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

Or you could bring go for the eyes and dervishes, where the dervishes are going to get criticals more often and for higher damage. That can be done regardless of secondary and by using spear you'll gain adrenaline faster than scythe.

Yeah, but dervishes can't use the various Paragon IAS and adrenaline boosts, there for drastically lowering the rate of criticals on a dervish.
Though, that said, Dervishes are good for.. Other things.
A paragon can't juggle enchantments or use avatars like a dervish can.

On the contrary, if you have a dervish on the team, a paragon can play a huge support role in that way, making a dervish's damage even bigger.

Kind of like UA and HB monks, how an HB monk echos UA.

In this way, the insane party-wide critical support of a Scytheagon along with a Dervish in the frontlines would just all add up to overall insane damage, whether you're the dervish or the paragon.
It's not about who's better, but what you can do TOGETHER!

I still have yet to make a thread documenting on GFTE abuse, but will do so when I'm not lazy

The Riven · Jun 30, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

A paragon can't juggle enchantments or use avatars like a dervish can.

Dont use avatars please. I realise that the Derv will be limited in its usefulness in any HM party, using avatars will not help.

Lishy · Jun 30, 2009, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Not to go offtopic, but if conjure Avatar of Grenth builds aren't useful for high damage, I don't know what is, for dervishes.

Axel Zinfandel · Jul 01, 2009, 04:27 AM // 04:27

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Not to go offtopic, but if conjure Avatar of Grenth builds aren't useful for high damage, I don't know what is, for dervishes.

Doesn't Aura of Holy might cancel the cold damage of AoG?

and if so, I mean, why would you run a build without AoHM?

Lishy · Jul 01, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32

/12chars

Just for the sake of getting back on topic, I'm going to say that although you should start as a P/W, the paragon has a lot of over-looked potential. So you should check out a variety of secondaries whenever change is possible.

Bill Clinton · Jul 01, 2009, 09:35 AM // 09:35

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

/12chars

Just for the sake of getting back on topic, I'm going to say that although you should start as a P/W, the paragon has a lot of over-looked potential. So you should check out a variety of secondaries whenever change is possible.

Very much agreed. You will find imbagon gets a hell'a boring and there IS other potential. You'll want to use it, trust me. (Though good luck with using anything other than imbagon when pugging)

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Doesn't Aura of Holy might cancel the cold damage of AoG?

and if so, I mean, why would you run a build without AoHM?

Because heros cant use AoHM. Thats why they arent using it.

Calista Blackblood · Jul 01, 2009, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Closing this at OP's previous request